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Help with possible scam bot.
#1
Just after a bit of help. I'm not a gambler. I don't have the stomach for it. I love the Bitcoin sites because they have a faucet and I can waste an hour or so when bored 'gambling' without actually losing anything.

Now a friend of mine is a big gambler and has lost a lot of money in the past. Now that's fair enough, his choice. He's gained too.

But he's stumbled across this satoshi mines bot on YouTube and is convinced he can make his fortune as in the videos. I'm sceptical because in the end the house always wins.

https://youtu.be/FES0j_wXvG4

Now I'm also sceptical as to the bot and it's motivations. I'm thinking it steals your hash and then any BTC you happen to have in your account.

So I'm asking for some help from someone with more knowledge. Is there a program I can download that will check the connections this bot makes to see if it connects to anything other than the site it should or check if basically there's anything dodgy it's doing.

Might sound daft but if my friend wants to deposit a load of BTC and lose it on a gambling site then fair enough that's his call. But I don't want him being scammed out of it.

Maybe I'm wrong and the bot simply does as it says and if you lose its because that's what happens when you gamble.

Can anyone help me out with this?

Thank you.
Lyceumhq, Member of Bitcoin Black Hat since Dec 2016.
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#2
unfortunately im not on windows

if the bot don't steel your money is just like you said, house always win with presistant gambling.

If the bot can make a lot of money with no risk it owner for sure would keep it for himself, right?

its or some kind of malware or just a bot that automatize some kind of strategy, he can try to use the bot in a controlled environment like a virtual machine and depo a low amount.

anyway reading your friend story perhaps the best sites for him is something like:
https://healdove.com/mental-health/Gambl...s-Too-Late
http://www.psychguides.com/guides/how-to...g-problem/
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addic...mbling.htm
http://www.21stepstostopgambling.com/signs_quiz.html
https://www.problemgambling.ca/EN/Gettin...kbook.aspx

stop gambling stuff...

anyway if in a near future i install windows ill check that bot

you can do some work like send the file to
https://www.virustotal.com/

search for the bot name on google and add the word scam

search for reviews

i didn't pay much attention to the video but if is magic, is virus, if is kind of acceptable, perhaps is normal software, anyway i don't see why the guy distribute the bot with no kind of referral to join, or payed url shortner, or its own website. shady.
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#3
Hey man i just found this thread from a very reliable source:

http://www.bitcoinblackhat.com/showthread.php?tid=186
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#4
(Jan 05 2017, 07:53 PM)ED209 Wrote: unfortunately im not on windows

if the bot don't steel your money is just like you said, house always win with presistant gambling.

If the bot can make a lot of money with no risk it owner for sure would keep it for himself, right?

its or some kind of malware or just a bot that automatize some kind of strategy, he can try to use the bot in a controlled environment like a virtual machine and depo a low amount.

anyway reading your friend story perhaps the best sites for him is something like:
https://healdove.com/mental-health/Gambl...s-Too-Late
http://www.psychguides.com/guides/how-to...g-problem/
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addic...mbling.htm
http://www.21stepstostopgambling.com/signs_quiz.html
https://www.problemgambling.ca/EN/Gettin...kbook.aspx

stop gambling stuff...

anyway if in a near future i install windows ill check that bot

you can do some work like send the file to
https://www.virustotal.com/

search for the bot name on google and add the word scam

search for reviews

i didn't pay much attention to the video but if is magic, is virus, if is kind of acceptable, perhaps is normal software, anyway i don't see why the guy distribute the bot with no kind of referral to join, or payed url shortner, or its own website. shady.

Thanks, I've tried to get him to stop but since he doesn't think he has a problem it will never work until he admits he gambles too much.

I'm hoping to be able to show him it's a scam bot (or that it isn't - thats not above the realms of possibility, people give bots away on here for nothing) because as I said, losing your money gambling is one thing, having it stolen from you is another.

Does anyone know of a program that will let me monitor all connections the bot makes? Will run it through vuris total too, thank you!

(Jan 05 2017, 09:44 PM)ED209 Wrote: Hey man i just found this thread from a very reliable source:

http://www.bitcoinblackhat.com/showthread.php?tid=186

Thanks, will check that out, although it's a totally different bot I'll send him the link

Okay so I downloaded protnetmonitor and styarted the bot, it connects to satoshi mines site as expected but also to the following site

cluster020.hosting.ovh.net

Kind of confirms my suspicion, why would it need to connect to another site.
Lyceumhq, Member of Bitcoin Black Hat since Dec 2016.
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#5
Also blocked the bots connection to the above site and it refuses to run.

I'm no expert but that's enough for me to call bullshit.
Lyceumhq, Member of Bitcoin Black Hat since Dec 2016.
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#6
(Jan 05 2017, 11:22 PM)Lyceumhq Wrote:
(Jan 05 2017, 07:53 PM)ED209 Wrote: unfortunately im not on windows

if the bot don't steel your money is just like you said, house always win with presistant gambling.

If the bot can make a lot of money with no risk it owner for sure would keep it for himself, right?

its or some kind of malware or just a bot that automatize some kind of strategy, he can try to use the bot in a controlled environment like a virtual machine and depo a low amount.

anyway reading your friend story perhaps the best sites for him is something like:
https://healdove.com/mental-health/Gambl...s-Too-Late
http://www.psychguides.com/guides/how-to...g-problem/
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addic...mbling.htm
http://www.21stepstostopgambling.com/signs_quiz.html
https://www.problemgambling.ca/EN/Gettin...kbook.aspx

stop gambling stuff...

anyway if in a near future i install windows ill check that bot

you can do some work like send the file to
https://www.virustotal.com/

search for the bot name on google and add the word scam

search for reviews

i didn't pay much attention to the video but if is magic, is virus, if is kind of acceptable, perhaps is normal software, anyway i don't see why the guy distribute the bot with no kind of referral to join, or payed url shortner, or its own website. shady.

Thanks, I've tried to get him to stop but since he doesn't think he has a problem it will never work until he admits he gambles too much.

I'm hoping to be able to show him it's a scam bot (or that it isn't - thats not above the realms of possibility, people give bots away on here for nothing) because as I said, losing your money gambling is one thing, having it stolen from you is another.

Does anyone know of a program that will let me monitor all connections the bot makes? Will run it through vuris total too, thank you!

(Jan 05 2017, 09:44 PM)ED209 Wrote: Hey man i just found this thread from a very reliable source:

http://www.bitcoinblackhat.com/showthread.php?tid=186

Thanks, will check that out, although it's a totally different bot I'll send him the link

Okay so I downloaded protnetmonitor and styarted the bot, it connects to satoshi mines site as expected but also to the following site

cluster020.hosting.ovh.net

Kind of confirms my suspicion, why would it need to connect to another site.

yeah you can use like wireshark or smsniff or other packet sniffer to see what it is doing,

Well the program may connect to other website to upgrade proposes or other kind...but yes very suspicious you would have to check what is the content of the request when the program connects to the other website.

yeah man shady stuff...i would not put my money on that...
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#7
(Jan 06 2017, 02:43 AM)ED209 Wrote:
(Jan 05 2017, 11:22 PM)Lyceumhq Wrote:
(Jan 05 2017, 07:53 PM)ED209 Wrote: unfortunately im not on windows

if the bot don't steel your money is just like you said, house always win with presistant gambling.

If the bot can make a lot of money with no risk it owner for sure would keep it for himself, right?

its or some kind of malware or just a bot that automatize some kind of strategy, he can try to use the bot in a controlled environment like a virtual machine and depo a low amount.

anyway reading your friend story perhaps the best sites for him is something like:
https://healdove.com/mental-health/Gambl...s-Too-Late
http://www.psychguides.com/guides/how-to...g-problem/
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addic...mbling.htm
http://www.21stepstostopgambling.com/signs_quiz.html
https://www.problemgambling.ca/EN/Gettin...kbook.aspx

stop gambling stuff...

anyway if in a near future i install windows ill check that bot

you can do some work like send the file to
https://www.virustotal.com/

search for the bot name on google and add the word scam

search for reviews

i didn't pay much attention to the video but if is magic, is virus, if is kind of acceptable, perhaps is normal software, anyway i don't see why the guy distribute the bot with no kind of referral to join, or payed url shortner, or its own website. shady.

Thanks, I've tried to get him to stop but since he doesn't think he has a problem it will never work until he admits he gambles too much.

I'm hoping to be able to show him it's a scam bot (or that it isn't - thats not above the realms of possibility, people give bots away on here for nothing) because as I said, losing your money gambling is one thing, having it stolen from you is another.

Does anyone know of a program that will let me monitor all connections the bot makes? Will run it through vuris total too, thank you!

(Jan 05 2017, 09:44 PM)ED209 Wrote: Hey man i just found this thread from a very reliable source:

http://www.bitcoinblackhat.com/showthread.php?tid=186

Thanks, will check that out, although it's a totally different bot I'll send him the link

Okay so I downloaded protnetmonitor and styarted the bot, it connects to satoshi mines site as expected but also to the following site

cluster020.hosting.ovh.net

Kind of confirms my suspicion, why would it need to connect to another site.

yeah you can use like wireshark or smsniff or other packet sniffer to see what it is doing,

Well the program may connect to other website to upgrade proposes or other kind...but yes very suspicious you would have to check what is the content of the request when the program connects to the other website.

yeah man shady stuff...i would not put my money on that...

How would I check the content of the request?
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#8
well im not with the best conditions to explain but is something like this, depending of the program you are using


[Image: smsniff.gif]

at blue you have a GET or POST request to the server, at purple you have the the server reply.
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#9
(Jan 06 2017, 03:15 AM)ED209 Wrote: well im not with the best conditions to explain but is something like this, depending of the program you are using


[Image: smsniff.gif]

at blue you have a GET or POST request to the server, at purple you have the the server reply.

Thanks,

Downloaded the program and this is what it says, apologies but this is just gibberish to me. There were two incidances of the bot connectiong to the site above. Don't suppose you can shed any light?

Quote:GET /g.php?checkid=load:xlimitxBig Grin963A3E3ED5B6EE6E0F33DE0BA93986A3FF2DAA2645F83745DE1744F5D2EC679344842060711F300E2036340F069B0A8306A576CFE8205FCBB3508FFAB97912BDAB654C477E2C4B5251338CDC3A50BFC54530A79837F0B4B0B4D35F6D2054C2D55BB HTTP/1.1
Connection: Keep-Alive
Accept: */*
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0
Host: http://www.crabbpeople.com


HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 23:08:29 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.6.21
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Set-Cookie: SERVERID585=2020129|WHAjc|WHAjc; path=/
Cache-control: private

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GET /udAte.php? HTTP/1.1
Connection: Keep-Alive
Accept: */*
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0
Host: http://www.crabbpeople.com


HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 23:08:29 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.6.21
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Set-Cookie: SERVERID585=2020129|WHAjc|WHAjc; path=/
Cache-control: private

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7.1
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Quote:GET /g.php?checkid=load:xlimitxBig Grin963A3E3ED5B6EE6E0F33DE0BA93986A3FF2DAA2645F83745DE1744F5D2EC679344842060711F300E2036340F069B0A8306A576CFE8205FCBB3508FFAB97912BDAB654C477E2C4B5251338CDC3A50BFC54530A79837F0B4B0B4D35F6D2054C2D55BB HTTP/1.1
Connection: Keep-Alive
Accept: */*
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0
Host: http://www.crabbpeople.com


HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 23:08:02 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.6.21
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Set-Cookie: SERVERID585=2020129|WHAjV|WHAjV; path=/
Cache-control: private

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Lyceumhq, Member of Bitcoin Black Hat since Dec 2016.
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#10
hey man are you sure that those connections are from the bot?

if yes, i think is scam confirmed because see the host that it connects

Host: http://www.crabbpeople.com/

if you visit the page you will see the following messages (copied from the page source code) :

<span>Nothing to see. Move on.</span>
<p>Like really, please leave now.</p>
<p>Your presence is not wanted here.</p>
<p>Srsly...</p>
<p>Liefe no</p>
<p>Leave now!</p>
<p>No I didnt fuck you youre stupid!</p>
<p>LALALLALA I'M NOT LISTENING</p>
<p>Ok, now go.</p>

"No I didnt fuck you youre stupid!" --- kind of weird for a legit stuff

The bot seems in the first request to be mapping you or saying that you are alive and in second request, checking for update, perhaps to update to something more hardcore....It can update, so it can download stuff to your computer and run it.

after see the messages on the above page....i don't know...don't seem right

trash the bot, forget it, is offensive trash crap. Is garbage, do manual bet, or offer me money to code you a bot for satoshimines with some strategy that you like lol

cheers man!
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#11
(Jan 06 2017, 11:47 PM)ED209 Wrote: hey man are you sure that those connections are from the bot?

if yes, i think is scam confirmed because see the host that it connects

Host: http://www.crabbpeople.com/

if you visit the page you will see the following messages (copied from the page source code) :

<span>Nothing to see. Move on.</span>
<p>Like really, please leave now.</p>
<p>Your presence is not wanted here.</p>
<p>Srsly...</p>
<p>Liefe no</p>
<p>Leave now!</p>
<p>No I didnt fuck you youre stupid!</p>
<p>LALALLALA I'M NOT LISTENING</p>
<p>Ok, now go.</p>

"No I didnt fuck you youre stupid!" --- kind of weird for a legit stuff

The bot seems in the first request to be mapping you or saying that you are alive and in second request, checking for update, perhaps to update to something more hardcore....It can update, so it can download stuff to your computer and run it.

after see the messages on the above page....i don't know...don't seem right

trash the bot, forget it, is offensive trash crap. Is garbage, do manual bet, or offer me money to code you a bot for satoshimines with some strategy that you like lol

cheers man!

Yes they're connections from the bot, I've used a few programs to test.

Also have blocked the connection via firewall just to that host, but not to satoshi mines and the bot refuses to run unless it can connect to the host, just gives an error message and closes.

Have sent my friend a link to the page, hopefully he will decide againt using the bot. Cant do much more than that can I.
Lyceumhq, Member of Bitcoin Black Hat since Dec 2016.
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#12
yeah man fuck that bot even if it were legit, you turn on the bot, go to sleep when you wake up it busted all your money, happen in all bots, in that scammy bot , perhaps the guy gain access to your account or some crap like that, the page witch the bot connects throw realy suspicius messages, no white hat developer do that kind of crap, in other hand is classic black hat behaviour.

cheers
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#13
(Jan 07 2017, 04:06 PM)ED209 Wrote: yeah man fuck that bot even if it were legit, you turn on the bot, go to sleep when you wake up it busted all your money, happen in all bots, in that scammy bot , perhaps the guy gain access to your account or some crap like that, the page witch the bot connects throw realy suspicius messages, no white hat developer do that kind of crap, in other hand is classic black hat behaviour.

cheers

Thanks, as I said in my OP if he deposits and uses the bot and it busts all his money then so be it, that's what happens when you gamble and ddon't know when to stop. That's his own idiocy.

But having your cash ripped off and stolen by some scammer is another thing!
Lyceumhq, Member of Bitcoin Black Hat since Dec 2016.
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